Wednesday, July 05, 2006

Vball

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Jane Doe

hey!

Jane Doe

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hi

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Jane Doe

vball questions!

Jane Doe

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yes

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Jane Doe

what's that called when players run to the specific spots on the floor (ie. power, offpower, etc)

Jane Doe

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switching to your position?

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Jane Doe

ok. from left to right, what are the names for the front line?

Jane Doe

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power middle offside (or setter), depending on how you play, or if 4 play 3 hitters it's power middle setter offside

Jane Doe

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some people call offside right hitter

Jane Doe

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oh, it's Middle blocker

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ok. ok. start over. i'm a bit confused. go from left to right with a comma seperating the positions

Jane Doe

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power, middle blocker, offside

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Jane Doe

what about the back row?

Jane Doe

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same

Jane Doe

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that's after u switch

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Jane Doe

ok then

Jane Doe

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hm...but then there's someone called libero

Jane Doe

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that's new rules

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Jane Doe

ok

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Jane Doe

how come we always did boy-girl-boy instead of moving people to their best position?

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Jane Doe

ie tall people who can spike move to the front

Jane Doe

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because eventually short ppl will have to be in the front too

Jane Doe

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if you're in the back u can't go hit until u play front, unless u jump from behind the attack line

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Jane Doe

ok

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Jane Doe

but

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Jane Doe

i thought they don't keep track of that stuff in house league?

Jane Doe

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of wat stuff

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Jane Doe

people in the back row hit in front of the attack line

Jane Doe

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that's illegal :P

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Jane Doe

we have established that, but wouldn't you be able to get away with it in house league?

Jane Doe

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now unless the ref sucks and doesn't care

Jane Doe

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*no

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Jane Doe

ok. fair enough, but if there's no ref, shouldn't we play in our best positions?

Jane Doe

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no cuz that's just cheating

Jane Doe

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it's like saying....if there's no ref in bball, why can't u just run with the ball?

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Jane Doe

hm

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Jane Doe

good poitn

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Jane Doe

ok

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Jane Doe

another question

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Jane Doe

this is direct at people like you

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Jane Doe

what's the point of spiking the ball? it takes the same trajectory as setting it except it's much less accurate and has a higher chance of failure compared with a set

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Jane Doe

the only advantage i see is that the ball travels a bit more quickly

Jane Doe

Edward (ubc wireless - avoid like the plague)

it's not a bit more quickly, it's a lot more quickly and harder

Jane Doe

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and many ppl can get it very accurately

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Jane Doe

ok, but for short people the ball takes a different trajectory so the increased speed isn't that big of a deal

Jane Doe

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nah, i still think my spikes are way more efficient than my sets

Jane Doe

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setting to them is like a free ball, no good

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Jane Doe

ok.

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Jane Doe

but how many sets have you screwed up?

Jane Doe

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setting over the net?

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Jane Doe

yeah

Jane Doe

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not many i totally see what u mean but really, what's volleyball without spiking? that's just wussy play !

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Jane Doe

spiking is for people who can actually spike the ball down at the correct trajectory!

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Jane Doe

and on that note, i think i should set instead of spiking as well

Jane Doe

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how are u gonna learn if you don't practice?

Jane Doe

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no, u should just learn to spike properly

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Jane Doe

how are you gonna learn? how does this apply to people who will never reach over the net unless they cross breed with a kangeroo?

Jane Doe

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i'm short i can still spike downwards

Jane Doe

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on the rare occassion i can even spike into their attack zone

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Jane Doe

ok, can you reach over the net? (personally, i barely can)

Jane Doe

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no obviously

Jane Doe

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brb, laundry

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Jane Doe

ok, if you can't reach over the net, how can you spike downwards?

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Jane Doe

ok. if i disappear for whatever reason, it's stupid wireless

Jane Doe

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Edward (ubc wireless - avoid like the plague) says: ok, if you can't reach over the net, how can you spike downwards? Jane Doe says: i wonder about that too Jane Doe says: but i think it's about the spin on the ball Jane Doe says: i think when u try to hit you have no spin on it so it just goes straight out Jane Doe says: have u'v

Jane Doe

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Jane Doe says: have u've gone to drop in with me before?

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Jane Doe

um yeah

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Jane Doe

those crazy good asians

Jane Doe

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yep

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Jane Doe

i think when u try to hit you have no spin on it so it just goes straight out ----> huh?

Jane Doe

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ur ball doesn't spin forward to go down...it just floats out

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Jane Doe

when spiking?

Jane Doe

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yep

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Jane Doe

?

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Jane Doe

so the ball doesn't go downwards during a spike?

Jane Doe

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urs from what i remember doesn't

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Jane Doe

argh

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Jane Doe

i meant your spike

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Jane Doe

i know my spike doesn't go downward

Jane Doe

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hahah yeah that's what i'm saying!

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Jane Doe

so it doesn't go straight downward?

Jane Doe

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mine?

Jane Doe

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yours?

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Jane Doe

yours as in you

Jane Doe

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it depends if i get on top of the ball when i hit it

Jane Doe

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it's about timing

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Jane Doe

but you can't touch the top of the net! how can the ball go downward?

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Jane Doe

if the ball went downward, it'd go under or into the net

Jane Doe

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yeah that's why i said i wonder about that too :P

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Jane Doe

so in conclusion, when you spike, the ball goes up and over the net before being pulled down by gravity

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Jane Doe

like a elongated inverted 'U'

Jane Doe

Edward (ubc wireless - avoid like the plague)

yeah but it doesn't mean that it's like a set

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Jane Doe

but in terms of trajectory, more or less the same

Jane Doe

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nope

Jane Doe

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cuz a set, the U is more even on both sides

Jane Doe

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spike it's more like inverted check mark

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Jane Doe

ok fair enough

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Jane Doe

but for most girls, don't you think they should set instead of spiking?

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Jane Doe

cuz most girls usually screw up spiking

Jane Doe

Edward (ubc wireless - avoid like the plague)

no, that's so pessimistic of you :P u keep hitiing till u get better

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Jane Doe

ok true, but in most cases, the girls aren't going to get better. so they should go for the safe play instead of the high risk, minimal benefit play? yay/nay?

Jane Doe

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no way, they will get better for sure!

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Jane Doe

but the problem is that the girls don't use the right technique and if someone like you is not around, they'll continue using the wrong technique, yay/nay?

Jane Doe

Edward (ubc wireless - avoid like the plague)

no, i think they will self teach them selves up to a point

Jane Doe

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like say they were fluky got a good hit

Jane Doe

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they will try to learn on that

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Jane Doe

ok that's true for someone who is competitive such as yourself

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Jane Doe

but for a lot of girls ('ohh i just want to play for fun'), they don't pick up on this and they'll continue doing the wrong thing

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Jane Doe

yay/nay?

Jane Doe

Edward (ubc wireless - avoid like the plague)

then they shouldn't play :P

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Jane Doe

so then. all things considered, these type of girls should go for the safe play instead of a risky play?

Jane Doe

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well yeah if they don't care about playing they should just do wathever to get it over

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Jane Doe

ok

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Jane Doe

oh yeah, i'm on another vball team this term

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Jane Doe

i keep telling myself 'oh i'll be happy if we win one set', but then in the game, my competitive instincts just take over

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Jane Doe

even though we stink

Jane Doe

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house league?

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Jane Doe

yeah

Jane Doe

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house stinks

Jane Doe

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brb

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Jane Doe

ok

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Jane Doe

eh? what's your opinion on house?

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Jane Doe

hurry. wireless is about to drop me any second now

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Jane Doe

back?

Jane Doe

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hi

Jane Doe

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house.....ppl don't know how to play and they don't know the rules

Jane Doe

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so when i ref them i'm easier

Jane Doe

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not so up tight

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Jane Doe

any other reasons?

Jane Doe

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or else i'd call everything :P

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Jane Doe

any other reasons?

Jane Doe

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reasons for?

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Jane Doe

disliking house league?

Jane Doe

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they don't know how to play they don't know rules not competitive enuf for me

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Jane Doe

isn't tier 1 the next one up?

Jane Doe

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yes

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Jane Doe

how big is the skill level jump between house and tier 1?

Jane Doe

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pretty big

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Jane Doe

alright

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Jane Doe

agree or disagree, one of the big appeals of house vball is the relatively lack of physical activity?

Jane Doe

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appeals?

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Jane Doe

something that attracts people

Jane Doe

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haha attracts lazy ppl?

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Jane Doe

like one of the appeals of ice cream is sweetness

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Jane Doe

agree or disagree?

Jane Doe

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sweetness if yummy

Jane Doe

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lazy is just lazy

Jane Doe

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house...more like...i think ppl that wanna play competitive but don't know how

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Jane Doe

agree or disagree about my comment?

Jane Doe

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i don't know

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Jane Doe

well i'll explain my opinion

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Jane Doe

in vball, you effectively stand around (the lazy people anyways) most of the game

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Jane Doe

whereas in hockey, bball, ultimate or whatever, it's obvious when you're not working hard enough (ie, the other person has a 10 ft lead on you)

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Jane Doe

yay/nay?

Jane Doe

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yeah cuz in other sports it covers more ground

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Jane Doe

hence the appeal of house league vball.

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Jane Doe

and hence why longboat is bigger than storm the wall.

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Jane Doe

if you slack off in the boat, it's unlikely anyone will notice

Jane Doe

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yeah everyone thinks they can paddle

Jane Doe

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u say run, ppl get scared